Press

[banjo]

glenbuck cherrypickers?

[Mori]

BBC

Sales fall for most Sunday papers





Every Sunday newspaper other than The Mail on Sunday saw its Scottish sales drop year-on-year, according to the latest official figures.
ABC circulation figures also showed sales of the Sunday Mail and the Sunday Post fall below symbolic milestones last month.
The Sunday Mail sold fewer than 300,000 copies a week in Scotland.
And sales of the Sunday Post dropped below 200,000 for the first time in decades.
Most popular Sunday newspapers appear to have lost some readers to the new Sunday edition of The Sun.

[Dexter St. Clair]

BBC

Sales fall for most Sunday papers





And sales of the Sunday Post dropped below 200,000 for the first time in decades.

Scotland will be free, said the historian Tom Nairn, when the last minister is strangled by the last copy of the Sunday Post

Expect a Nat assassination campaign on reverends.

[RDR]

Two issues for me.

1. I think the print media as we knew it is dead. I rarely buy a newspaper anymore and read them all on line. Except for the more highly specalised magazines, then I cannot see hardcopy newspapers unless of the 'free' variety continuing.

2. Press standards are awful particularly amongst the tabloid press (though the Hearld isn't much better). Its not all about phone and e-mail hacking either. The general standard of reporting is simply awful. Who knows what is taught on university and college 'journalisim and media studies) courses, but it doesn't seem to include checking and getting your facts straight, morals and ethics and fabrication. I'm speaking from the experience of having to deal with the press from time to time.

What happened to the great investigative journalists like Pilger and Foot?

[The Egg Man]

Two issues for me.

1. I think the print media as we knew it is dead. I rarely buy a newspaper anymore and read them all on line. Except for the more highly specalised magazines, then I cannot see hardcopy newspapers unless of the 'free' variety continuing.

2. Press standards are awful particularly amongst the tabloid press (though the Hearld isn't much better). Its not all about phone and e-mail hacking either. The general standard of reporting is simply awful. Who knows what is taught on university and college 'journalisim and media studies) courses, but it doesn't seem to include checking and getting your facts straight, morals and ethics and fabrication. I'm speaking from the experience of having to deal with the press from time to time.

What happened to the great investigative journalists like Pilger and Foot?

Do you mean guys who could punctuate and spell?

[RDR]

Two issues for me.

1. I think the print media as we knew it is dead. I rarely buy a newspaper anymore and read them all on line. Except for the more highly specalised magazines, then I cannot see hardcopy newspapers unless of the 'free' variety continuing.

2. Press standards are awful particularly amongst the tabloid press (though the Hearld isn't much better). Its not all about phone and e-mail hacking either. The general standard of reporting is simply awful. Who knows what is taught on university and college 'journalisim and media studies) courses, but it doesn't seem to include checking and getting your facts straight, morals and ethics and fabrication. I'm speaking from the experience of having to deal with the press from time to time.

What happened to the great investigative journalists like Pilger and Foot?

Do you mean guys who could punctuate and spell?

No, I mean reporters who want to get at the truth, not bend a story to suit their own ends.
Or those who might care about the effects the stories they publish have on individuals.

[Mori]

I think the Scotsman will go pretty soon.

Guardian

The editor-in-chief of the Scotsman has become the latest victim of a brutal cull of senior editorial executives by Ashley Highfield at regional newspaper publisher Johnston Press.
John McLellan's editor-in-chief role at Scotsman Publications is being axed as part of a cost-cutting management restructure, the Scotsman's Edinburgh-based journalists were told in an internal announcement on Thursday lunchtime by Johnston Press Scotland managing director Andrew Richardson.
This comes after Highfield, who took over as chief executive from John Fry late last year, stunned Johnston Press journalists on Wednesday by axing the editors of daily regional titles the Yorkshire Post, Yorkshire Evening Post and the Lancashire Evening Post.

McLellan, who is understood to have been escorted from the Scotsman building around midday, was appointed as editor-in-chief of the Scotsman, Scotland on Sunday and the Edinburgh Evening News in 2009.

[The Egg Man]

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No, I mean reporters who want to get at the truth, not bend a story to suit their own ends.
Or those who might care about the effects the stories they publish have on individuals.

Isn't that a bit selective? You want the truth but only if it doesn't have an effect on individuals.

[Josef]

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No, I mean reporters who want to get at the truth, not bend a story to suit their own ends.
Or those who might care about the effects the stories they publish have on individuals.

Isn't that a bit selective? You want the truth but only if it doesn't have an effect on individuals.

There's no need to polarise. That isn't an either/or issue, in the same way as you needn't be either a teetotaller or an alcoholic.

[RDR]

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No, I mean reporters who want to get at the truth, not bend a story to suit their own ends.
Or those who might care about the effects the stories they publish have on individuals.

Isn't that a bit selective? You want the truth but only if it doesn't have an effect on individuals.

Not if the individual is in some way culpable (think Nixon).
Too often the press run stories on the front page which turn out to be less than truthful or accurate but end up being highly damaging. You might eventually get a retraction on page 9 in size 8 font a week later, but by then its to late.
You might say complain to the PCC, but they are useless.

[The Egg Man]

But Vince Cable has no responsibility at all towards the deal - that was taken away from him after he was caught on tape admirably declaring war on Murdoch. Shouldn't you be targeting Jeremy Cu..sorry, Hunt, who actually will be the deciding factor here?

Jim Naughtie was right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS5mVoqJ ... re=related

[The Egg Man]

All the press are interested in is circulation (and advertising). Joan McAlpine is a bit controversial - she's the wumman who insists that anyone not pro-independence is anti-Scottish.

It rather poses the question, how many Record readers read McAlpine's column? How many Evening Times readers read Anas Sarwar's column. How many readers know either column exists. I know it's not a fair comparison but when you look at the 'most read' section of the online version of the two papers it's almost 100% stories about Rangers situation.

Despite my best endeavours I couldn't but enjoy Ms McAlpine's ritual humiliation before Holyrood and the Scottish public as she apologised for seeming to feel the social company of the First Minister was of greater importance than her duties in the Chamber.

She claims, on this occasion, she had "lost track of time". It's always like that in Uganda.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/j ... -1-2301995

[Dexter St. Clair]

Cyber Nats on retreat underneath the article.

Although I did like the reference to Frank McAveety preferring a more proletarian lunch and Rosie Kane insisting she sat with the proletarians in the canteen.

[Josef]

Cyber Nats on retreat underneath the article.

Although I did like the reference to Frank McAveety preferring a more proletarian lunch and Rosie Kane insisting she sat with the proletarians in the canteen.

You're probably going to have to come up with a better term than that at some point. 'Cyber Nats' sound like things that buzz around ineffectually without having any impact on anything (which would rather detract from your intention, I'm suspecting), whereas 'Cyber Labs' sound like either unfailing faithful servants happy with the odd bowl of water and Winalot before they shit on the pavement and doze off under the pub table, or the place that they produce pre-programmed robots to carry out their evil creator's mad schemes.

"Cyber Cons" sounds about right, mind.

[Dexter St. Clair]

Although I recognised the phenomenon early somebody else named them. They shut down the BBC boards, keep the Herald intern fully occupied and had to be returned for re grooving after they failed to take Glasgow.