Gay Glasgow

[Mori]

You think you're a man is my favorite.

Aye panama Jax on wednesday ended up in there one of those wednesdays not realizing it was a gay night.
Chatting away to a nice lookin female untill she lifted her skirt and showed me his pollokshaws.

Ever heard o Billy whiz ?

[groovyclown]

I remember seeing Divine in the flesh - so to speak at Strathclyde Union in the 80's - not a pretty site.
I also remember many fun Wednesdays at Panama Jaxs. Although Squires was my favourite haunt after stumbling across it by accident a few months into my first year at Uni.

[BrigitDoon]

...she lifted her skirt and showed me his pollokshaws.

Ahem! Grammar...

...her Pollokshaws.

Women and transgender people en femme are referred to with female gender pronouns; Pollokshaws is a proper noun and warrants a capital letter.

Well done for not putting a 'c' in there and avoiding a more serious charge.

[mr moto]

Pollokshaws has a very interesting history you know....http://openlibrary.org/b/OL13665583M/qu ... -the-Shaws

[Mori]

Pollokshaws has a very interesting history you know....http://openlibrary.org/b/OL13665583M/qu ... -the-Shaws

Aye its well known

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[bobrobert]

Moving swiftly on....

I'd really like to hear from older lesbian and gay HG members or their friends. Where did gay people meet in the 50's and 60's, or even earlier?

There was a bar at the top of Hope Street on the right hand side going up, at the brow of the hill. I think it was Guys? That I believe was in the fifties/sixties. Bars not mentioned in the posts. Remember the bar next to the Pavilion, now part of Lauders? One near the pedestrian bridge on the Clyde? The Draw Bridge? On the south side. A pub just along the street from the old Transport museum on Albert Drive? The downstairs lounge was gay about 20 years ago. No mention of the saunas?

[Mark N]

This is an email I've just received :

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You may have heard that Culture and Sport Glasgow (the body responsible for art galleries, libraries and sports centres in Glasgow) and the Gallery of Modern Art have recently decided not to show a number of artworks that they had planned to exhibit as part of the sh[Out] LGBT arts programme. In particular, this has affected the work of Spanish artist Dani Marti and his residency with Gay Mens’ Health.

Three pieces of Dani's work were withdrawn by CSG - effectively censored. These works were “talking heads” type documentaries where gay men revealed their HIV status and discussed issues around their lives and loves. They were to be shown on a few Thursday evenings after 5.30pm at GOMA. Other parts of the programme have been re-scheduled and doubt has been cast over whether other planned exhibits will be allowed to go ahead.

Culture and Sport Glasgow have stated that one of the reasons it decided to withdraw Dani's work was to protect the artists, the sh[Out] programme and the LGBT community as a whole from negative press and attacks from other groups that would "negate both the artistic and societal endeavour" of the programme.

This completely misses the point that sh[Out], a "contemporary art and human rights" programme was supposed to address such issues, not shy away from them. The artists and organisations involved in the sh[Out] programme are fully entitled and much better qualified to make these kind of decisions for themselves. We are the ones who have been dealing with homophobia and negative and violent reactions all of our lives. These experiences inform our art/work and are what led some of us to become involved in the sh[Out] programme in the first place, either as exhibitors or as members of the sh[Out] Advisory Group.

My own organisation, Bildwechsel Glasgow, has been well supported by staff within GoMA and recognises that the staff there have been put in a very difficult position. However, it is has been made clear to the sh[Out] Advisory Board that some elected Glasgow councillors have reservations about sh[Out] which they have made clear to CSG staff. This, combined with recent Daily Mail outrage over the "defaced Bible" work, has directly contributed to CSG's decision to censor, re-schedule and put on hold vital works of art by LGBT artists.

We are deeply concerned that the on-going, in-depth and media-sensitive scrutiny of artworks planned for the sh[Out] exhibition may be inherently homophobic, as no other artists or exhibitions at GoMA have been treated in this way.

We demand that Culture and Sport Glasgow and the Gallery of Modern Art re-instate Dani Marti's censored work immediately. They must also re-affirm their commitment to show all the works originally planned as part of the sh[Out] programme, without attempting to make them less visible by re-scheduling or re-locating them.

Culture and Sport Glasgow has a responsibility to promote, explore and celebrate the art and culture of the great diversity of peoples that live in Glasgow and beyond. If LGBT people have the courage to live their own lives out and proud in the face of hatred and homophobia and under threat of marginalisation and violence, surely we have the right to expect courage and vision from decision-makers and elected representatives.

I would like to ask you to e-mail, phone or write to your own Councillors to make them aware of the situation and let them know your views. Everyone in Glasgow now has three or four councillors that cover the Ward they live in. You can find yours and their contact details by entering your postcode here:

http://www.glasgow.gov.uk/en/YourCounci ... uncillors/

If you want to, you could also contact your Members of the Scottish Parliament, whose details are at http://www.writetothem.com/ or write to the Director, Mark O'Neill, Head of Arts and Museums, at the Gallery of Modern Art, Royal Exchange Square, Glasgow, G1 3AH (You can use the online form at http://www.glasgowmuseums.com/emailform ... staffid=72). GoMA has received many letters from organised right-wing groups in opposition to sh[Out] artworks. We think it is important that they begin to hear some other voices.

You can keep up to date on the campaign here http://shoutadvisorygroup.blogspot.com.
Thanks for taking the time to read this.

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[Lucky Poet]

They should threaten to move the whole thing over to Edinburgh.

[Dexter St. Clair]

Following the outcry CSG said Marti's work had to be moved to "reframe the debate". It plans to show his art over a weekend at the Tramway during the autumn instead. Marti, who was born in Spain and splits his time between Glasgow and Australia, said he would fight this compromise. He insists the works should be shown at GoMA as was originally planned. He fears that moving them to the Tramway, located on the city's south side, would marginalise the art and the issues.

"The whole purpose of my residency is to bring an awareness of these issues to the widest audience," he said. "The whole thing is lost. To take it to Tramway and just speak to four or five arty fartys is no good. It is not doing the purpose."

One of the videos, Time Is The Fire In Which We Burn, was commissioned especially for the exhibition. It is an interview with a man called John from Glasgow, a former male prostitute and porn film actor, who talks about his life in Miami, being HIV positive, taking the drug crystal meth and extreme sexual acts he has taken part in.

The second video, Ausmusdad, is a portrait of a 63 year old who came out to his family in his late 40s and is HIV positive. It features full frontal male nudity. It has previously been shown in Zurich.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/artist-attacks-goma-for-censorship-of-gay-life-exhibition-1.826883

[BrigitDoon]

To protest the city's decision, in the coming weeks he plans to create guerilla artworks around the city in front of council property.

Guerilla artworks? I'm looking forward to this.

[Omi]

Glasgow in the early 80's for me was Vintners bar (had a crush on one of the staff) - then off to Bennets (met David Knight and another hairdresser from Paisley called Jacky there) - great times - even got a wink and a pull from a certain gay Another Country actor in there.

Am gonna visit again in November but I suspect it won't be the same as most places I remember have now gone - will be staying in the old What Every Woman Wants shop - now a hotel - so will be trying to revisit the pubs that still remain.

Good times and great memories

[Raddled_Old_Queen]

There was a bar at the top of Hope Street on the right hand side going up, at the brow of the hill. I think it was Guys? That I believe was in the fifties/sixties. Bars not mentioned in the posts. Remember the bar next to the Pavilion, now part of Lauders? One near the pedestrian bridge on the Clyde? The Draw Bridge? On the south side. A pub just along the street from the old Transport museum on Albert Drive? The downstairs lounge was gay about 20 years ago. No mention of the saunas?

The Hope Street bar is before my time but I think you're right that it was called Guys
The bar next to the Pavilion was called Harrys Bar
The Albert Drive one was called also called Guys Bar - it was underneath the Lord Darnley Pub which closed down some years later after an outbreak of TB killed a couple of punters.
The one near the bridge (if you mean the suspension bridge) must surely be the Vintners?
There was very briefly in the early 80's a bar on broomielaw - directly opposite where the Riverboat Casino is now - can't remember the name.

Sigh

[Autolycus]

................There was very briefly in the early 80's a bar on broomielaw - directly opposite where the Riverboat Casino is now - can't remember the name.

Sigh

Minstrels? With the boat on the outside wall?

[Josef]

................There was very briefly in the early 80's a bar on broomielaw - directly opposite where the Riverboat Casino is now - can't remember the name.

Sigh

Minstrels? With the boat on the outside wall?

Also called The Riverside for a while, I think. They had a brief spell of putting on bands in the post-punk era.

[Mark N]

They had a brief spell of putting on bands in the post-punk era.

Sounds like my sort of gay bar !!! I take it the idea didn't catch on?