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Bridie wrote:The British Pathe site has a video of Joseph Kennedy receiving the freedom of the city of Edinburgh award.
I'm not sure why someone in the audience shouts at 0.46
Can't seem to find out why he received the award.
There are other videos of him on the site.
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/freed ... ry/Kennedy
Bridie wrote:Great addition to the thread Hamski thanks
Did any of the local media cover this story, yesterday on the anniversary of his death?
freebornjohn wrote:RDR I agree. In fact the entire aura of mythology that now surrounds the Kennedy family has been carefully crafted over a period of time by various people - including Jackie O who invented the nonsense about Camelot after JFK died. The same is true of the whole Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile Crisis fiasco from which one would gather the impression that JFK wanted nothing to do with invading Cuba after that. But documents declassified in the last twenty years reveal that his brother Bobby was a nutcase who had an obsession with waging a secret war from Nicaragua with Cuban expatriates and laundered CIA funds against Cuba. And that was going on while the CIA was working with the Mafia to topple Castro, and while Bobby Kennedy was trying to prosecute the Mafia. Meanwhile the Mafia were trying to halt the prosecutions and had plans to assassinate JFK during 1963 in Chicago, then in Tampa and then someone got 'lucky' using the same game plan in Dallas. To think that JFK was an honest soul and open book who had emerged from his father's twisted guidance is plain wishful thinking that is only fit for entertainment purposes.
freebornjohn wrote:I agree, but actually I was responding to your previous comment:Nice find Bridie.
Unfortunately the shout you hear is related to Scottish sectarianism, and a relatively famous incident at the time.
The individual is shouting 'we want no popery here' related of course to the Kennedys close association with the Catholic church."
In the USA, the anti-Catholic vote has morphed with the Evangelical vote into common cause over abortion and other related issues, and after 9-11, religious suspicion drifted to all things Islam. Today the Catholic issue is a non-issue.
However, I will say that from personal experience having lived in Texas (the "buckle" of the Bible belt as it was called), the people of the City of Fort Worth (just 15 minutes down the freeway/motorway from Dallas), is just about as international and integrated with a worldwide mixture of cultures as any place can be. (Which is far more liberal in that sense than present-day Scotland.) It is interesting to note that JFK touched down and stayed the night in Fort Worth before taking off and flying to Dallas Love Field airport and that ill-fated motorcade.
While Love Field still exists as a regional airport, the international traffic now flies in to DFW which is situated half-way between both cities which are called the 'Metroplex, and it is larger than the entire population of Scotland.
moonbeam wrote:JFKs dad was the US ambassador to Britain. However he was unpopular in the UK due to his perceived closeness to German interests. He had noted that FDR would probably not get elected. FDR did and Kennedy left rather abruptly. The Brits did not "take" to Joe Kennedy. I don't know if the British press conspired against him at the time. Perhaps JFK was sent to Glasgow to try and improve Joe Kennedy's image in the UK? Any thoughts?
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