Autolycus wrote:Looks like this is where the GARL money went.
Aberdeen bypass given green light by ministers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/nor ... 424142.stm
Yet more anti Glasgow bias.
Ever tried to get through Aberdeen at rush hour?
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Autolycus wrote:Looks like this is where the GARL money went.
Aberdeen bypass given green light by ministers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/nor ... 424142.stm
Yet more anti Glasgow bias.
Ally Doll wrote:Autolycus wrote:Looks like this is where the GARL money went.
Aberdeen bypass given green light by ministers.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/nor ... 424142.stm
Yet more anti Glasgow bias.
Ever tried to get through Aberdeen at rush hour?
BenCooper wrote:But it's not just a public transport scheme - it's a public transport scheme that makes it easier to travel by air, the most unenvironmental way of travelling. I'm glad they've dropped the scheme - the longer it takes and the more hassle it is to fly, the more people will take the train.
BenCooper wrote:But it's not just a public transport scheme - it's a public transport scheme that makes it easier to travel by air, the most unenvironmental way of travelling. I'm glad they've dropped the scheme - the longer it takes and the more hassle it is to fly, the more people will take the train.
BenCooper wrote:It does, but they won't be turned of by the lack of a rail link. When you go on holiday, do you pick your holiday destination by whether there's a rail link from the airport? I doubt anyone does.
This rail link was really for all the people who take short-haul flights from Glasgow to the rest of the UK or Europe - and it's those people, especially to the UK destinations, who should really be going by train.
sds wrote:Example: I've flown into Rome twice. Once to FCO, once to CIA. The former has frequent train links to Rome which cost 11€. The latter had an intermittent bus ride to Rome which cost 16€. Which do you think was the better experience?
cheesemonster wrote:sds wrote:Example: I've flown into Rome twice. Once to FCO, once to CIA. The former has frequent train links to Rome which cost 11€. The latter had an intermittent bus ride to Rome which cost 16€. Which do you think was the better experience?
That wasn't the case when I was there (CIA) in January 2007 and doesn't appear to be the case now. Terravision, who Ryanair ally with have reduced their prices to 4€ each way, and there are a choice of other bus operators (Schiaffini and BusShuttle according to Wikipedia), in fact, it is possible to get from Ciampino airport to Termini for a single euro by getting a local bus to Anagnina metro station and then getting the metro to Termini provided you have acquired a bus/metro ticket from a tobacconists. There is also a bus for tourists that goes direct to Anagnina from the airport, where you can buy a ticket from the driver for around 3 euros. And there is also a train station in Ciampino town, which is a short bus or taxi ride away. There is choice and it isn't near as expensive or intermittent as you've suggested.
Yes, the first time I visited Helsinki was in February and it was -15 degrees and there was a hell of a lot of snow, far more than we have at the moment , and the bus still left on time and arrived on time.sds wrote:One exception I've seen is Helsinki (HEL), which has no rail link, but whose city-run buses work like clockwork, are modern, clean, and spacious.
But if you have to make a meeting in London first thing in the morning, then the train just can't get you there in time.
Dexter St. Clair wrote:But if you have to make a meeting in London first thing in the morning, then the train just can't get you there in time.
moonbeam wrote:The Heathrow express is getting very expensive compared to the tube.
If GARL is built will people use it
or continue to use the bus?
sds wrote: .......................If GARL is built will people use it
Yesor continue to use the bus?
Yes.
These are complementary solutions to the same problem.
Autolycus wrote:sds wrote:These are complementary solutions to the same problem.
The problem with the airport 'express' bus service is that it can take as long to get to/ from the airport as you spend in the air from Heathrow etc. Even the 747 service which mostly avoids the M8 isn't what you'd call quick.
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