'Time machine' pubs

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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby the bar biographer » Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:55 pm

beneld wrote:Having been around quite a few pubs in the last year, I have noticed there is usually a red painted part of the bar. It could be the ceiling, as in the Carnarvon , Imperial and Ettrick , the walls , like the Dowanhill, or columns, like Henglers . There are many more examples.
Is there a name for that shade of red ? is there a reason it is so common ? It is very common and a consistent muted shade of red , not quite red sandstone but that may be it.

Also does anyone have a copy or know where i can get a copy of the "Glasgow & Strathclyde Pub Crawls " poster by Bernie Carroll that hangs on the wall in Fiddlers and Orwells ? How many of those pubs shown still exist ?

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Funny you should say that, I was down in London recently and quite a few of the pubs there had a similar shade of red on the plaster ceilings....
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby the bar biographer » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:02 pm

gap74 wrote:The Laurieston is truly a gem, don't let the location or general appearance put you off, go on a quiet afternoon or weeknight and experience the quintessential 1960s Glasgow bar, even the gents still has its formica panelling! And double-decker formica tables so you have somewhere to put your paper without it getting wet!

Go back another 30 years and pop in to the Steps Bar in Glassford St - forget Tiger Tiger down the road, open the door to the Steps and you're right back in the 1930s. Check out the cracking private room at the back with the stained glass window, sublime!

There would have been a handful of these types of bars in every Glasgow street once upon a time, the fact that you have to go to some effort to seek them out now is a sad, sad thing.

Other recommendations - Victoriana pub interiors are still relatively easy to find, The Pot Still & The Horseshoe being favourites of mine. The State Bar is a curio, once adorned with a splendid art deco interior, which has since been largely replaced with more traditional fittings and furnishings, but check out the deco plaster arch up the back.

Mmm, could do with a pint now...



Wrote a piece recently on The Star Bar but somehow I missed the deco plaster arch! Oops

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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby Josef » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:56 pm

Read gap's post again, bb.
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby the bar biographer » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:31 pm

Josef wrote:Read gap's post again, bb.


Thanks, Josef.

Oops again! That's why I didn't see any such arch in The Star!

Will have a look next time I'm in The State.
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby banjo » Wed Aug 03, 2011 8:48 pm

beneld,the new glasgow pub crawl poster has far more pubs on it than my original.a lot of the old ones have changed names or are no more.the old one had granny blacks and the doctors plus a few more that have gone.i bought it to frame it but its still in its original cellophane after all these years.could be sought after in a few years ,who knows. ::):
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby beneld » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:15 am

Thanks Banjo.
I actually found another one of those posters on the wall in the Stanley Bar. Cant find them in stock online. They are produced by a company in Liverpool though. ( The postcards are available by the looks of it http://www.beerinnprint.co.uk/category_list.php?list=149 )

Any way more questions.

3 Bars with models of themselves in them; Scotia; Three Judges; Station Bar. Any others ?
( Someone should make papercraft e.g. http://www.buildyourownchicago.com/index.html versions of these bars and sell them )

Are the Gents toilets in the Toby Jug under the building next door or is it just me. ?

Whats the story about the Wizard of Oz statues behind the bar at the Imperial ?

What is the box of pins on the wall at the right hand end of the Three Judges bar ?

What is the story behind the Kenny Dalglish painting in The Common Rooms ?

Bars w spitoons . Viceroy, Allison Arms . Any more ?

Split level Bars . Dowanhill, Pot Still, Intermezzo ? Others ?
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby Rucola » Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:38 am

beneld wrote:
Split level Bars . Dowanhill, Pot Still, Intermezzo ? Others ?


The Press Bar has a wee raised level bit at the back, doesn't it?
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby beneld » Wed Sep 14, 2011 9:12 am

Rucola wrote:
beneld wrote:
Split level Bars . Dowanhill, Pot Still, Intermezzo ? Others ?


The Press Bar has a wee raised level bit at the back, doesn't it?


Yes it does but i was thinking more in terms of a decent set of stairs to get to the
other area. The State has a raised bit as well and Blackfriars, and quite a few others, but very few
have more than 3 steps like the other ones.

I also got hold of one of the bar crawl posters . One of the landlords i was talking to had a stack of them he had been given by the company.
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby Doorstop » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:25 am

Pablo's in Crow Road had a split bar, separated by a spiral staircase no less.

BJ's at Anniesland Cross has one, although the upstairs bar is only in use as an extension to the downstairs bar on football viewing days.
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby the bar biographer » Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:19 am

Re. split level pubs.

Crosslands on Queen Margaret Drive has the daddy of split levels. It's a bit like a medieval banquetting hall with a high gallery looking over the rest of the bar.

The gallery was immortalised by Begbie in Trainspotting launching his pint glass over his shoulder to shatter in some unfortunate woman's face. He then waded in to punish the 'culprits'.
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby The Egg Man » Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:53 am

beneld wrote: ..................

Split level Bars . Dowanhill, Pot Still, Intermezzo ? Others ?


The Bon Accord springs to mind. The Three Judges has a raised area (I don't know if that counts) and The Lismore has a raised area at the back though some would argue that's a separate pub.
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby banjo » Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:27 pm

the chrystall bell has a split level.
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby The Egg Man » Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:22 pm

The Egg Man wrote:
beneld wrote: ..................

Split level Bars . Dowanhill, Pot Still, Intermezzo ? Others ?


The Bon Accord springs to mind. The Three Judges has a raised area (I don't know if that counts) and The Lismore has a raised area at the back though some would argue that's a separate pub.



Someone has pointed out to me that the Bon Accord is on three levels.
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby beneld » Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:56 pm

I also talked with an long serving landlord about the red painted parts i mentioned earlier. He half jokingly said it was that way because thats what could be nicked from the Shipyards back in the day and the style stuck.
Going along with that i recently read that all the American Mid Western barns were not painted red for aesthetic reasons but maybe because the paint they had that had pesticides/fungicides in it to stop the barns being eaten away was red because of the iron in it. So the old iron oxide paint was used liberally. Maybe the paint with fungicides for ships was similar.
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Re: 'Time machine' pubs

Postby Doorstop » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:59 pm

Red lead paint was applied to ships more as an anti corossion measure than an anti pest one.
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