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Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:15 am
by myfriendstan
Did you see my ball in there? It was an orange mouldmaster and disappeared in early 1971.

Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:41 am
by Fossil
myfriendstan wrote:Did you see my ball in there? It was an orange mouldmaster and disappeared in early 1971.


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Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:18 pm
by toomse
If the Molendinar and Camlachie burns converge and exit to the Clyde south of Mart Street I’m wondering what the outfall highlighted on the map is

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Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:27 pm
by BenCooper
Interesting - even on maps from the 1500s, the two burns converge and exit to the West of the Saltmarket, so I've got no idea what that could be. Drainage from the Green, maybe?

Where do you get such detailed maps from?

Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:53 pm
by Sydney Rosewater
BenCooper wrote:No - it's not a sewer, unless there's a flood or something and the sewers overflow - it had clear water running through it.



That's interesting, I read years ago that it had been made into a sewer and it stuck with me. It does often look a queer colour when I peek over to look at the open bit at Duke Street. They are great photo's and an interesting story.

Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:55 pm
by engineer
currently working on a diversion for the camlachie burn, outfall going here
http://tinyurl.com/5j4fdv
its for future use, may not be operational for a number of years

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:44 am
by dry boak
Ronnie wrote:check out http://www.molendinar.com

I'd love to visit the underground chamber ... anyone know where the spiral staircase might be?


Am I missing something here? There seems to be a home page with nothing but a sketch?

Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:42 am
by Anorak
I’ve been using to Sir James Marwick’s map of “Glasgow 1547”, to illustrate a web page to show what the Cathedral Precint may have been like before the Reformation.

According to this map, there were 4 streams flowing into the Clyde at that time.
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The westmost stream which met the Clyde round about Jamaica Bridge is referred to as “Burn called Glasgw”. The Molendinar is referred to as “Burn called Moyndinar”. There are 2 streams which join it from the east, “Burn called Poldrait” and an unnamed burn at the bottom of the page, presumably the Camlachie Burn?

Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:27 pm
by BenCooper
Aye, I've seen that map - the "Burn called Glasgw" later became the St. Enoch's Burn - it ran at the bottom of the gardens of the posh mansions on Buchanan Street. It's apparently under West Nile Street, but I've not traced it exactly. On older maps, a parish boundary wiggles down that way.

On a larger version of that map, the lowermost one is indeed marked Camlachie - or perhaps Camlawchty, I can't remember the spelling. The Poldrait doesn't seem to exist any more - at least there are no joins with the Molendinar there...

Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:00 pm
by toomse
the Molly's still highlighted in parts of present day OS maps:

outfall at Hogganfield Loch
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assuming it runs close to here next
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assuming it's in this vicinity as well
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last recorded location before outfall to the Clyde
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Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:01 am
by toomse
also came across these sections from Frankfield Loch leading to the outfall at Hogganfield Loch

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Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:12 am
by toomse
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Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:31 pm
by Ronnie
toomse, do any of the fascinating PU prints you have show whether the Molendinar flows under either the Necropolis or the Tennents beer factory? Thanks.

Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:01 am
by BenCooper
It definitely doesn't flow under the Necropolis- it goes right down Wishart Street. It does seem to loop under the brewery - it's hard to measure angles and distances underground, but I'd estimate that it loops about as far as a line drawn from Hunter Street.

At the top of the loop is a blocked-off inlet - a waste outlet from the brewery?

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Re: Molendinar Burn

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:30 pm
by Ronnie
Thanks, Ben, what a brilliant picture.