Molendinar Burn

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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby myfriendstan » Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:15 am

Did you see my ball in there? It was an orange mouldmaster and disappeared in early 1971.
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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby Fossil » Thu Dec 04, 2008 10:41 am

myfriendstan wrote:Did you see my ball in there? It was an orange mouldmaster and disappeared in early 1971.


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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby toomse » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:18 pm

If the Molendinar and Camlachie burns converge and exit to the Clyde south of Mart Street I’m wondering what the outfall highlighted on the map is

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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby BenCooper » Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:27 pm

Interesting - even on maps from the 1500s, the two burns converge and exit to the West of the Saltmarket, so I've got no idea what that could be. Drainage from the Green, maybe?

Where do you get such detailed maps from?
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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby Sydney Rosewater » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:53 pm

BenCooper wrote:No - it's not a sewer, unless there's a flood or something and the sewers overflow - it had clear water running through it.



That's interesting, I read years ago that it had been made into a sewer and it stuck with me. It does often look a queer colour when I peek over to look at the open bit at Duke Street. They are great photo's and an interesting story.
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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby engineer » Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:55 pm

currently working on a diversion for the camlachie burn, outfall going here
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its for future use, may not be operational for a number of years
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Postby dry boak » Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:44 am

Ronnie wrote:check out http://www.molendinar.com

I'd love to visit the underground chamber ... anyone know where the spiral staircase might be?


Am I missing something here? There seems to be a home page with nothing but a sketch?
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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby Anorak » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:42 am

I’ve been using to Sir James Marwick’s map of “Glasgow 1547”, to illustrate a web page to show what the Cathedral Precint may have been like before the Reformation.

According to this map, there were 4 streams flowing into the Clyde at that time.
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The westmost stream which met the Clyde round about Jamaica Bridge is referred to as “Burn called Glasgw”. The Molendinar is referred to as “Burn called Moyndinar”. There are 2 streams which join it from the east, “Burn called Poldrait” and an unnamed burn at the bottom of the page, presumably the Camlachie Burn?
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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby BenCooper » Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:27 pm

Aye, I've seen that map - the "Burn called Glasgw" later became the St. Enoch's Burn - it ran at the bottom of the gardens of the posh mansions on Buchanan Street. It's apparently under West Nile Street, but I've not traced it exactly. On older maps, a parish boundary wiggles down that way.

On a larger version of that map, the lowermost one is indeed marked Camlachie - or perhaps Camlawchty, I can't remember the spelling. The Poldrait doesn't seem to exist any more - at least there are no joins with the Molendinar there...
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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby toomse » Thu Jan 15, 2009 4:00 pm

the Molly's still highlighted in parts of present day OS maps:

outfall at Hogganfield Loch
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assuming it runs close to here next
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assuming it's in this vicinity as well
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last recorded location before outfall to the Clyde
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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby toomse » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:01 am

also came across these sections from Frankfield Loch leading to the outfall at Hogganfield Loch

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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby toomse » Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:12 am

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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby Ronnie » Fri Feb 13, 2009 8:31 pm

toomse, do any of the fascinating PU prints you have show whether the Molendinar flows under either the Necropolis or the Tennents beer factory? Thanks.
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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby BenCooper » Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:01 am

It definitely doesn't flow under the Necropolis- it goes right down Wishart Street. It does seem to loop under the brewery - it's hard to measure angles and distances underground, but I'd estimate that it loops about as far as a line drawn from Hunter Street.

At the top of the loop is a blocked-off inlet - a waste outlet from the brewery?

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Re: Molendinar Burn

Postby Ronnie » Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:30 pm

Thanks, Ben, what a brilliant picture.
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