Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

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Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby War Baby » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:05 pm

In 1911, my grandmother, Eveline Holmes, born 1893, lived at 63 Abbotsford Place, Gorbals. She went to school in that area, and I know for a fact that there was a school in Abbotsford Place, which was still standing in the 1970's.

I suspect that these is a good chance that she went to that school. Can anyone tell me what was the number Abbotsford Place School, so that I can see how near to number 63 it was?
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A second question about Abbotsford Place... My grandmother was living with the Wilsons at number 63, and Jessie Wilson had a tobacconist shop. She was said to be a tobacconist shopkeeper. I would love to find out the exact address of that tobacconist's shop - does anyone know how it could be traced?
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby RDR » Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:30 pm

War Baby wrote:In 1911, my grandmother, Eveline Holmes, born 1893, lived at 63 Abbotsford Place, Gorbals. She went to school in that area, and I know for a fact that there was a school in Abbotsford Place, which was still standing in the 1970's.

I suspect that these is a good chance that she went to that school. Can anyone tell me what was the number Abbotsford Place School, so that I can see how near to number 63 it was?
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A second question about Abbotsford Place... My grandmother was living with the Wilsons at number 63, and Jessie Wilson had a tobacconist shop. She was said to be a tobacconist shopkeeper. I would love to find out the exact address of that tobacconist's shop - does anyone know how it could be traced?


I think the school was at 129 Abbotsford Place.
I remember the tobacconist and going past it but not exactly where it was, sorry.
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby War Baby » Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:39 pm

Yeah! That makes me pretty sure she went to that school.

That shop owned by Jessie Wilson might have been there a long time. Just wondering when you remember
seeing a tobacconist shop in the area.... ?
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby RDR » Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:29 pm

War Baby wrote:Yeah! That makes me pretty sure she went to that school.

That shop owned by Jessie Wilson might have been there a long time. Just wondering when you remember
seeing a tobacconist shop in the area.... ?


It would have been the mid 60's.
By the early 70's most of the shops and tenements in Abbotsford palce were empty and awaiting demolition.
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby Dexter St. Clair » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:19 pm

The School Building is still there

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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby Guacho » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:43 pm

There was an archeology dig in McKinlay St- might be some stuff on line.

Picture of the school from the dig site
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby War Baby » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:06 pm

Guacho,
Terrific photos! First class. Never expected that. Thanks a lot!!!
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby Bridie » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:24 pm

Sorry for highjacking the thread but who is Streapadair and why does he have so many great pics? just curious :)
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby Dexter St. Clair » Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:30 pm

Because unlike everyone else who asks for pictures of their granny's heilan hovel but could not give you one of their current abode he went out out in to the street and took the photographs.
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby Bridie » Mon Aug 27, 2012 12:20 pm

Dexter St. Clair wrote:Because unlike everyone else who asks for pictures of their granny's heilan hovel but could not give you one of their current abode he went out out in to the street and took the photographs.

Yes that part I do understand my esteemed HG contributor however this man seems to have had the foresight to photograph on a much greater scale than your average "take a picture of me standing at the close" bod.
I just wondered if he was professional ie employed by a newspaper ?
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby madeline sutherland » Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:36 pm

does anyone remember the original Buffs Club that was there?
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby valwylie » Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:02 am

It is interesting that your grandmother stayed with Wilsons at No 63 Abbotsford Place as a William Wilson of that address, Commission Agent, signed the death Certificates in 1859 of Mungo Morton Muir and his infant son, Morton Muir - the first as 'nephew' and the second as 'cousin'. The Muirs lived in Cumberland Street in the Gorbals. I spent all day yesterday without success trying to find this William Wilson in the 1861 Census at 63 Abbotsford Place, but he is listed there in the Glasgow Postal directories for several years around that time. 63 Abbotsford Place is given as his house address and 25 Gordon Street, Glasgow as his business address.
I wonder if you know any more about Jessie Wilson and any other members of her family? I realise that the dates which interest you are much later but I am desperate to find more details about this William Wilson, particularly the names of his parents and his dob, as he may be the missing link between two branches of the Wilson family, mine and that of John Wilson (aka Christopher North of Blackwood's Magazine, born in Paisley) which I have been seeking for simply ages. Regards, Val
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby Rita » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:31 pm

hi my name is rita mcskimming maden name swan I was born in the same house at 63 abbortsford place govan 1962 I have a few names for that address that year Donald Morrison swan wife alice revill swan my dad john murray swan and mum rita McLaren whiteford swan . I am looking for help to find my ralations or anyone who knew any of the above names when did your relations last leave that address maybe my gran and granddad new them
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Re: Gorbals - Abbotsford Place

Postby Rita » Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:22 pm

looking for information on a rita McLaren born 1941 lived tradeston 1961 abbortsford road were she married john swan
name on her birth certificate rita ( formerly rena ) McLaren whiteford occupation cinema usherette
her mothers name Kathleen Margaret whiteford occupation domestic servant
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